As you can probably guess, last week’s episode of Game of Thrones—and its increasing dominance over the pop culture landscape—has filled the ol’ postman’s stolen mailbag to the brim. There are a few spoilers for last week’s episode, but more importantly, an answer to a question we should have been asking ourselves since the first episode: Should we want Daenerys and Jon Snow to fuck? Aunt, Man. Aaron W.: So I’ve been struggling with this question a lot: Is it ok to . So the aunt/nephew dynamic is an absolute deal breaker to modern audiences, but maybe wouldn’t be the worst thing in Westeros? Lots of reasons it would be good, but one BIG reason it is unacceptable.
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Thoughts? Shipping is. I’ve seen worse than aunt and nephew. And the show is definitely presenting them as future romantic partners/fuckbuddies, which makes it as legitimate as these things get. Their familial relationship may freak you out, but that’s sort of the point. GRRM wants to show a medieval, feudal- type era with all the awfulness most fantasies skip over. The relentless sexism, the rape and torture, the horror that regular people could and did experience constantly as the result of what the nobility chose to do—you can absolutely complain about how omnipresent it is in his stories and/or how it’s portrayed, but it’s not inaccurate to the source material of that reality. And one part of that reality is medieval (and certainly ancient) nobility’s tendency toward incest, especially between uncles and nieces—to the point where its got its own name, avunculate marriage.
As you said, the books/show have already shown that Targaryens have been more than willing to marry within the family in order to keep their bloodline pure, so there’s a precedent for Jon and Dany starting a relationship. And since we’re talking about an aunt and nephew here (since Jon is the son of Dany’s deceased brother Rhaegar) and not uncle/niece, a Jon/Dany hook- up would. I am far more skeptical that Jon would be cool with sleeping with his aunt, given the rest of Westeros isn’t nearly as cool with incest (hence Cersei and Jaime’s hiding of their sexual relationship—well, until Cersei took the throne and decided that yes, in fact, as queen she gets to have sex with anyone she wants, and everyone else has to deal with it.
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Or be tortured and killed). But Jon’s problem is easily solved by keeping his parentage from him until after Ice and Fire have fucked each other. In fact, I suspect Bran is keeping/will keep the truth of Jon’s parentage from everyone until after Daenerys gets pregnant for that very reason. The Three- Eyed Raven knows this has to happen, so mum’s the word for now Or GRRM—or the show, for that matter, since we know it’s diverging from GRRM’s plan in major ways—could just throw a curveball and have Dany marry Gendry, the closest thing King Robert had to a legitimate heir, combining the Targaryen and Baratheon lines to create a progeny whose claim to the throne is unassailable throughout Westeros. Actually, that’s a pretty good idea! He’s way at the bottom . Ipod Trainwreck (2015) 2010. No way Bronn can hold his breath long enough to get down there, cut all the straps to all the pieces of the armor, pull them off, and then also pull him to safety before they both drown.
I’m not going to say it’s unrealistic, since Jaime was pushed into the water to avoid a dragon, but the point of Game of Thrones is that it has fantasy elements but it’s still realistic in the basic laws of physics. So isn’t Jaime getting rescued impossible? You bring up a good point about fantasy, in that the best fantasy has a set of rules, even if the audience doesn’t know them, and doesn’t break them. Someone suddenly having a “hoist person out of lake” spell to save Jaime would be dumb.
Tyrion running down the hell and begging Dany to have Drogon fish the dude who was about to kill her out of the lake is more realistic for Go. T, but implausible in terms of Dany’s character and the time it would take for Tyrion to get down to Dany and ask for her to save his brother. So that leaves Bronn. Here’s one thing we all need to make our peace with first, right now: Game of Thrones the TV show has begun playing fast and loose with strict reality in favor of presenting the most exciting story possible. This is how armies and fleets are moving gargantuan distances in- between and sometimes even during episodes. It’s why Tyrion can pick out Jaime from half a mile away amid a battlefield full of smoke and destruction.
It’s why Cersei and her allies can suddenly kick ass or all of Highgarden’s gold can get into King’s Landing with a mutter and a handwave. There are only nine episodes left, total, as of the time this mailbag hits the nerdernet. The show doesn’t have any time to waste. Yes, part of the reason the books are so good is because they were sprawling and complicated in the way life is, and yes, the show is 1.
I also, as I mentioned in my recap this week, think it doesn’t make any narrative sense for Bronn to push Jaime out of the way of a giant cone of dragon breath into a lake, only to have him immediately drown—if Weiss and Benioff are going to kill the character, having Jaime get turned into cinders by Drogon is a much, much cooler death. So I think the show will forgo realism (I mean, how was that lake at the side of that road a full 3. Bronn will cut Jaime out of his armor and drag him to the surface (because Jaime is the one who’s going to give him a castle, after all), and the Lannister will probably live to fight another day. And I also think he’ll be the one to perform those (book spoilers) valonqar duties, and obviously, he can’t do that if he’s dead.
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Ser Barristan would have been the most solid member of Daenerys’ Queensguard due to military and combat experience, but his relationship to Rhaegar is most interesting. When Dany tells Jon that everyone loves doing what they’re best at, Jon disagrees. Ser Barristan once told Dany a similar story about her brother Rhaegar preferring singing in the street to killing. I also imagine Ser Barristan recognizing the late prince’s resemblance in Jon’s face, posture, or personality. Although Jon is very much Ned Stark in code and hair color, there would be a few opportunities for the show to make that connection. Are there any dead characters that would’ve enhanced the current story we have without breaking the series? Barristan had to die because he had too many answers.
He knew Rhaegar well, and he likely knew what Rhaegar was doing when he kidnapped Lyanna, or at the very least he knew whether Lyanna was kidnapped or went with him willingly. Even though we know the result of their union was Jon Snow, the reason why Rhaegar kidnapped her, thus starting a chain of events that killed most of his family and ended their dynasty, is such an integral mystery that it’s going to need to be saved until the very end of the series. Barristan may well have had those answers. The show could get away with not acknowledging this for a bit, while he hadn’t been in Daenerys’ service for long and wasn’t completely trusted. When Dany realized that Barristan knew her family pretty intimately, and was beginning to ask questions about them—well, that’s when he had to go.
Barristan literally died in the same episode he began to tell stories Rhaegar (“Sons of the Harpy,” episode five). So yes, Barristan would added a great deal to the proceedings, but would have added too much, too soon. My pick would be either Oberyn or Doran Martell, if only so one of them could make the Dorne storyline worth a damn. It would be cool so see Dorne have a major role to play in the great war other than serving as Cersei fodder.
If a good Dorne storyline is off the table, I have to go Stannis, actually. Seeing him somehow bend the knee to Jon Snow and becoming part of the fight against the White Walkers would be really satisfying on a lot of levels, I think. But those are just mine—add and explain yours in the comments.
Our favorite podcasts of 2. Last year, podcasting hit a hot streak, as Barack Obama took to Marc Maron’s garage for one of his most candid interviews, proving that this medium remains dedicated to the sincere, unifying power of the conversation. This year, the focus on politics remained with Hillary Clinton not simply guesting, but rather creating her own podcast, which is rumored to continue post election. And Canada joined the party, too, with The Imposter,Sleepover,and. Heavyweight. Podmassis celebrating these achievements by awarding accolades to the best and brightest in this year’s class. Below are The A. V. Club’s Podmass superlatives for 2.
Matt Besser is no stranger to using his podcast to approach improv in different ways. He’s hosted musicians and poets to inspire scenes with their work, used his platform to confront internet trolls head- on, and devoted entire episodes to a single improvised longform narrative. With this experiment he weaves well- known songs like “Living On A Prayer,” “The River,” and “Me And Julio Down By The Schoolyard” throughout improvised scenes, asking a stacked lineup of improvisers (Horatio Sanz, Colton Dunn, Eugene Cordero, and Danielle Schneider) to sing along and use the classic lyrics as inspiration. The result is basically an improvised jukebox musical. Not every note is perfect, but the group fully commits to each beat without making obvious choices, and they pull out plenty other musical references along the way.
A scene depicting a rivalry between David Bowie and Prince in the afterlife that leads into a rendition of “Space Oddity” is especially fun. It’s nice for a show to successfully introduce a new concept, and it’s a delight to hear everyone have such a good time doing it.
But in a quest to prove that the catty behavior on screen is genuine, in this episode the pair debut “The Real Real Housewives Theatre.” The first in a series of real- life interactions between high- society women is an email chain with the subject line “Next teacher appreciation luncheon committee planning meeting.” Wilson and Schneider put their acting skills to the test in a reading that starts as a simple exchange of information to a committee of 2. It quickly escalates into a condescending, aggressive exchange between two mothers debating the minutiae of the event. Maybe it’s Wilson and Schneider’s colorful characterizations of these women, or it could be the details too ridiculous to be made up, but the lives of the Real Real Housewives are almost more compelling than those of the Real Housewives themselves. But that doesn’t mean that the dark, nitty- gritty details don’t linger, and none are more upsetting than those tied to the cult of Lululemon. It’s hard to look at middle- age, stay- at- home moms in yoga pants the same way after hearing Hardstark and Kilgariff discuss the strange pressure and rules applied to Lululemon employees, and even harder still to look a salesperson in the eye after learning about the grisly murder that took place in one of the stores.
This wasn’t the crime of an enlightened yogi—this was the work of a psychopath probably driven crazy by overpriced running shorts and ear warmers. Hardstark and Kilgariff give their own sage advice with each murder in the vein of their signature catchphrase “Stay sexy, and don’t get murdered.” The lesson here? Avoid yoga and all athletics at any cost. Until then, when they weren’t exploring the deeply weird lives of all their least favorite pundits, they were mostly criticizing the Democratic Party from a progressive perspective, in hopes of nudging conversations about its candidate (who they, just as much as everyone else, fully expected to be elected president) leftward; and then, suddenly, the show had lost in its rudder. After regrouping, though, Will Menaker, Felix Biederman, and Matt Christman returned with a renewed sense of purpose and an episode that serves perfectly both as a balm and an anti- balm: A call by Virgil Texas—who, along with Amber A’Lee Frost, has since been named an addition to the cast of co- hosts—for solidarity in the fight against the oncoming tide of fascism is truly affecting and comforting. It’s preceded by an hour of righteous anger about the election results, as well as an energizing passion for building a new, vital left in the U.
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It wouldn’t be Doughboys if the hosts didn’t feel physically ill and weren’t unabashedly pissed off at each other all while assigning asininely specific ratings to $4 hamburgers, and in that sense the tournament (and most especially its ending) is an excellent encapsulation of a consistently excellent podcast. Future generations will be extremely interested in gauging the mood immediately after the 2. U. S. Imagine if somebody had thought to record a podcast the morning after the K- T asteroid struck the Yucat. That seems like something that would be worth keeping, right? Slate editor Jacob Weisberg was really hoping to conclude his eight- month podcasting project after Election Day three weeks ago. No such luck. In fact, his show has been more vital than ever since the results came in.
No longer a smirking look at a political curiosity, Weisberg and his guests are suddenly addressing topics of immense national and global interest. But this episode—this one recorded on November 1. Cult Horror Movies Fallen (2017) there. One day, people will think back on the Trump presidency as a historical inevitability of sorts. But this confused and stunned conversation will stand as a record of just how much this occurrence fucked up people’s shit. To say it was a rough patch would be a lie; in fact, they took the long- distance relationship in stride and put out some of their best material yet. But when they finally reunited in this seminal episode, it was a moment in time for the podcast that showcased just why fans stuck around in the first place. After realizing that Davenport wasn’t actually in New York but in the women’s restroom at Earwolf, the two catch up with an after- hours slumber party where they pivot their characters in a way that makes them seem like two teenage girls who just want to chat all night.
They describe curling up in sound blankets taken from the studio walls and staring up at glow- in- the- dark stars on the ceiling as they play Fuck, Marry, Kill using Earwolf engineers; discuss which Sklar brother they like best as well as their new favorite shows. It’s an episode that relies wholly on their chemistry, and the slumber- party setup exemplifies everything fans love about them as a duo. Griffin, Justin, and Travis are three of podcasting’s goofiest hosts, and they’ve created a community that is uniquely warm and inviting, and this year My Brother, My Brother And Me (just one of many Mc. Elroy productions) provided a world where fans could be swept away for an hour or so to a place where the only priority is to laugh and have a good time. The show is a prime example of their unwavering charm and never fails to put you in a good mood. Take, for example, an episode like “Coyotes Ate Our Dad,” in which the three plot out a movie about a coyote named Kyle who just wants to be a father, or “Which One Vapes?” where they create the best game ever and bring with them their infectious joy. The Mc. Elroys are committed to having fun and making the best of any situation, and even just as a listener, it’s hard not to do the same.